Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sat down with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews following the second presidential debate on Sunday night. As one of Donald Trump’s loudest surrogates, Giuliani was asked to defend the Republican presidential nominee after video leaked last week of him bragging about grabbing women “by the pussy” in 2005.
Giuliani dodged the question in order to pivot to sexual assault accusations against former president Bill Clinton.
“How come he wasn’t prosecuted for raping Juanita Broaddrick? Why wasn’t he prosecuted for taking advantage of an intern in the White House?” Giuliani asked, referring to former president Clinton’s repeated sexual encounters with then White House intern Monica Lewinsky from 1995 to 1997. “There was semen on [Lewinsky’s] dress, which proved he lied to America. Just like her husband, [Hillary Clinton] is getting away with lying to America.”
“Men say stupid things in locker rooms,” Giuliani added after Matthews suggested he wasn’t “comfortable” with defending Trump’s hot mic comments. “I was a baseball player, a terrible football player but a good baseball player, and now I play a lot of golf.” He said, “I’ve played golf with Bill Clinton and I’ve heard worse than that.”
Giuliani sidestepped to another of the Trump campaign’s tireless talking points, pointing to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s email scandal.
“[Clinton] didn’t know that the ‘C’ in front of a paragraph meant confidential,” Giuliani said, regarding her reasoning for mishandling classified information via a private email server at her home in Chappaqua, New York. “How come I remember that and I was in the Justice Department in 1981.”
“If she didn’t know that,” he added, “she was either too stupid to be secretary of state or she’s lying.”